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Post subject: Re: Star Wars: Episode 8: The Last Jedi
Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2017 3:10 pm
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Anyone seen the new Movie yet?
I have I am sad to say. It's the worst Star Wars movie of all. The only thing they got right was the title "The Last Jedi" because there will never be another Jedi.
Mark 2017 as a landmark year it's seen the death of Star Wars, Star Trek and Alien. So glad they are waiting for 2018 to finish off Predator.
Interesting. I thought it was the best Star Wars movie I've ever seen, surpassing even The Empire Strikes Back.
But, then, the franchise does not resonate with me the way it does most of my generation. I found the iconoclasm refreshing, while many traditionalists no doubt thought it blasphemy.
And, frankly, Star Wars, after another film or two, needs to die. Enough is enough.
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Post subject: Re: Star Wars: Episode 8: The Last Jedi
Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2017 5:10 pm
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I willing to give any movie a chance but to call this one a Star Wars Movie is a joke. It should have gone straight to DVD just like all the new Trek movies should have. After this movie I don't see why they even need another movie but I am sure it will happen.
Post subject: Re: Star Wars: Episode 8: The Last Jedi
Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2017 6:36 pm
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Joined: Wed Aug 15, 2007 4:02 pm Posts: 1349 Location: USS Wyvren NCC-8755-G
JM1776 wrote:
Your opinion is noted, twice now. I feel no need to reiterate mine.
I enjoyed it. You didn't. Since I don't concede that your taste is superior (or, in this case, nearly as good), we'll agree to disagree.
On the other hand, insofar as the new Trek films are concerned (or, rather, the only one I've seen), we're in complete accord.
My last commit was not directed at you JM I was just ranting more. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. I do find it interesting though that you liked the new movie.
I am glad we can agree on one thing though. Some advice do your self a favor and never watch the other Trek movies.
Post subject: Re: Star Wars: Episode 8: The Last Jedi
Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2017 4:23 am
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Joined: Tue Sep 08, 2009 2:21 am Posts: 529 Location: In a van by the river, stealing your wi-fi
Having seen the movie 2 times now I must say the level of hatred toward it confuses me. To me it is almost as good as Empire. I am truly stumped by the "fans" this time around. Everyone I went with to see it loved it, the theater seemed to eat it up.
I do not get the vitriolic feelings of some people on this. I saw the movie as the first big step forward for Star Wars since RotJ. It changed things yes, but it explained why.
To me one of the big sticking points was Luke and whether or not a good man can think about doing an evil act. The answer to me is yes, the difference would be if the good man did it. But to some fans it seems to be the fact that Luke even considered an evil act was a bridge to far. But I remember Luke looming over Darth Vader for a long moment ready to kill him before he made his choice not to. To me what makes Luke a hero is considering the evil action but taking the good one.
But then again I went into this movie wanting to have an enjoyable time and not needed my fan theories validated and it seems some fans I have heard complaining did the opposite.
Anyway, long story short I loved the movie and I really don't understand the people who hate on it.
(Also if you compare Leia to Mary Poppins and not Superman GTFO because that was clearly a Superman pose not a Mary Poppins pose a and the only reason people are pulling the Mary Poppins bullshit is because she is a woman)
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Post subject: Re: Star Wars: Episode 8: The Last Jedi
Posted: Fri Dec 22, 2017 7:53 pm
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I went to see The Last Jedi today. I had some thoughts...
I thought it was better than The Force Awakens. But while I didn't think it was a bad movie, I didn't think it an especially good one either. The humor went overboard, and stole the tension out of too many scenes, and in a couple of places, knocked me out of the movie for a bit. My biggest problem with some of the humor and some other lines of dialogue were that they were too contemporary. Imagine if Frodo had said, "That sounds cool, Gandalf!" in one of the Lord of the Rings films.
Some spoilers:
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I liked the idea of Luke walking away from teaching new Jedi. I thought that was an interesting direction to take the character. I just wish they had dug into it more.
Leia being blown out into space and then flying back into the ship was too much.
Finn and Rose's little adventure also strained the film's believability. If they could jump to hyperspace, and then return, why couldn't the pursuing bad guys jump to hyperspace, and then jump back closer to the good guys and blow them away without this long drawn out pursuit?
Snoke seemed just a cardboard cutout bad guy. We had no idea what motivated him, where he came from, or what he ultimately wanted, just that he was EVIL. And then he dies. I'm not asking for a lot, but something, anything would have been preferable to what we got.
Kylo Ren, who I thought was close to worthless in the last film, had some of the better character stuff in this one, making him, aside from Luke, the most interesting character.
Kylo Ren and Poe are the only characters who change much in this film. There weren't any major revelations, no important questions raised, nor answered. The situation at the end of the film is pretty much the same as it was at the beginning--- the bad guys have pretty much taken over, and the good guys are on the run, but fewer in number.
There's some fun stuff to look at, and there are couple of fun actions scenes, but we had that in the prequels. I was expecting more from this movie.
I'd give it two out of four stars.
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